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possibly: They are wusses, they've never had
fights in school, it just seems like men have gotten weak and kinda
pussy like possibly: I mean, I'm talking about the era of "Real Men" and I know a real man might be a good father, or a guy who can pedicure his girlfriends feet Luke: i knew so many guys in high school that preened as much or more than the chickiest of chicks possibly: And I know that a real man is not a thug or a misogynist Luke: werd possibly: But what happened to the "Real Men" in the middle dude Luke: ahh Luke: werd Luke: i think you're right theyre not around so much possibly: Yah possibly: So I feel like a dinosaur at times, trying to live this idea of masculinity and i'm surrounded by all these pansy boys. possibly: Who show their underwear and mumble constantly possibly: I'm GenX and I don't get Gen Y and their only seems to be something like a five to ten year difference between the two groups, though the Gen groups are more a five-ten year marketing demographic, rather then a generational thing Luke: right Luke: im trying to find a word for what youre talking about Luke: i guess demasculate works Luke: i wonder maybe they just missed the idea of what masculinity was possibly: Yeah, pretty much Luke: i got into this discussion with this guy abo marriage yesterday Luke: and he was talking abou the marriage paradigm Luke: and i was saying what marriage should be Luke: so he played the "well my way worked for 30 odd years until my father died" possibly: What did he mean? Luke: basically he was saying in a family the man should be the one who sets the rules, values, etc. he's the breadwinner this and that Luke: the captain of the boat model possibly: Well, I mean, sure, but a woman can be that too possibly: It's just who is going to do what possibly: And that being the way it's gonna be possibly: With reason Luke: and i said, you dont choose captian on the base of gender ONLY Luke: and he was like "well thats how its worked for centuries, and since it has worked all this time, it still works" Luke: but i think he missing the point abou masculinity too Luke: men who stay home and take care of the kids arent any less masculine Luke: yknow? possibly: Yes possibly: I do possibly: That's true possibly: That's an antiquated view of it possibly: I could stay at home no problem, raise the kids, do the laundry, cook dinner and wait for the wife to come home, with a fresh drink in my hand and new makeup on possibly: : ) possibly: "HI Honey! How was your day" Luke: lol Luke: a couple can share decision making duties, if they desire, and you dont have to have someone who has veto power for a familly to work. Luke: but maybe im just naive Luke: i think my mom and dad could have stayed together, in retrospect Luke: at the time i didnt think so Luke: i wasnt one of those kids that was hoping and praying for her parents to get back together. they fought all the time, i never saw them happy Luke: so really it only made sense for them to split up possibly: It's true, you have to work like a team though, the money fuckup should not balance the books and the shoppingphoic should not use webvan for the overpriced shopping. Luke: but i think had they been more mature, perhaps a tad more forgiving possibly: Oh, well, I was a bit different, I thought it was perfectly normal for my folks to be seperated for ten years. possibly: They loved each other and were still my parents. possibly: It would have been nice if my mom and dad had stayed together, but it was no big deal. Though if they had, i'd probably been more responsible, gotten better grades, been a sharper student Luke: i think my father is still in love with my mom possibly: Rather then the intellectual and bored rebel possibly: Do you really eh possibly: That's interesting Luke: yeah |
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